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		<title>By: Mac Kerr</title>
		<link>http://barking.roaddog.com/2005/12/27/when-the-only-tool-you-have-is-a-hammer.html/comment-page-1#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Winer was one of the first developers for the Macintosh, but he has been a little bitter WRT Apple Computer ever since Apple Script knocked the bottom out of Frontier&#039;s market as a scripting environment. He was pretty vocal about what he saw as betrayal back then. Although he has gone on to develope many important new concepts I think he still remembers Frontier.

Mac
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Winer was one of the first developers for the Macintosh, but he has been a little bitter WRT Apple Computer ever since Apple Script knocked the bottom out of Frontier&#8217;s market as a scripting environment. He was pretty vocal about what he saw as betrayal back then. Although he has gone on to develope many important new concepts I think he still remembers Frontier.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://barking.roaddog.com/2005/12/27/when-the-only-tool-you-have-is-a-hammer.html/comment-page-1#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Mikey.  The DRM thing is interesting and with Sony stepping on their dick (in golf shoes) it will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

That local band I used to work with has been doing the official &quot;bootleg&quot; thing to the tune of about 3 million units over the course of the last few tours.  Available day after show, no DRM, 192k mp3 files.  For grins I checked a few of the big P2P nets to see how many of the tracks were being shared freely.  It&#039;s easier to get the one hit wonder &quot;Big in Japan&quot; from file sharing than it is these official bootlegs that are available without DRM.  I think that shoots down the whole DRM thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Mikey.  The DRM thing is interesting and with Sony stepping on their dick (in golf shoes) it will be interesting to see how it shakes out.</p>
<p>That local band I used to work with has been doing the official &#8220;bootleg&#8221; thing to the tune of about 3 million units over the course of the last few tours.  Available day after show, no DRM, 192k mp3 files.  For grins I checked a few of the big P2P nets to see how many of the tracks were being shared freely.  It&#8217;s easier to get the one hit wonder &#8220;Big in Japan&#8221; from file sharing than it is these official bootlegs that are available without DRM.  I think that shoots down the whole DRM thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings William.  I never knew that feature existed, and BTW, good choice of an album as an example.  I just gifted myself Linus and Lucy from that record.  I&#039;ve been wanting to learn to play that on the piano to use during line check/ soundcheck.  As an aside, for the first time in many, many, many years I watched the original 60&#039;s version of the show this season.  I missed the original stop motions of Frosty and Rudolph this year.  Enough of middle aged guy memory lane...

The gift is still an email or print out of the transaction and not the tune itself.  But still better than a gift cert.  I can burn it on a CD and give it to you but I can&#039;t give it to you online unless you have iTunes (v 6.0 at least) and an account at iTMS.  As far as Winer is concerned, I&#039;ve seen him speak several times and don&#039;t put too much stock in his ranting though I&#039;m sure lot&#039;s of folks say the same about me...

Good to hear from you William, give your family my regards.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings William.  I never knew that feature existed, and BTW, good choice of an album as an example.  I just gifted myself Linus and Lucy from that record.  I&#8217;ve been wanting to learn to play that on the piano to use during line check/ soundcheck.  As an aside, for the first time in many, many, many years I watched the original 60&#8242;s version of the show this season.  I missed the original stop motions of Frosty and Rudolph this year.  Enough of middle aged guy memory lane&#8230;</p>
<p>The gift is still an email or print out of the transaction and not the tune itself.  But still better than a gift cert.  I can burn it on a CD and give it to you but I can&#8217;t give it to you online unless you have iTunes (v 6.0 at least) and an account at iTMS.  As far as Winer is concerned, I&#8217;ve seen him speak several times and don&#8217;t put too much stock in his ranting though I&#8217;m sure lot&#8217;s of folks say the same about me&#8230;</p>
<p>Good to hear from you William, give your family my regards.</p>
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		<title>By: William Mortensen</title>
		<link>http://barking.roaddog.com/2005/12/27/when-the-only-tool-you-have-is-a-hammer.html/comment-page-1#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>William Mortensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that you can &quot;gift&quot; a custom playlist of songs even if you don&#039;t necessarily own all of the songs. You can add a song from the iTMS to a playlist without buying it by simply dragging the song from the iTMS to the playlist.

(The simplicity of this process would seem to fly in the face of Dave Winer et al.&#039;s assertions that iTunes is impossible to use....)

Also, the Cancel button on the page that you get when you click &quot;Gift This Music&quot; (on an album page) doesn&#039;t actually work for me. Bug, I guess. The Back button works just as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that you can &#8220;gift&#8221; a custom playlist of songs even if you don&#8217;t necessarily own all of the songs. You can add a song from the iTMS to a playlist without buying it by simply dragging the song from the iTMS to the playlist.</p>
<p>(The simplicity of this process would seem to fly in the face of Dave Winer et al.&#8217;s assertions that iTunes is impossible to use&#8230;.)</p>
<p>Also, the Cancel button on the page that you get when you click &#8220;Gift This Music&#8221; (on an album page) doesn&#8217;t actually work for me. Bug, I guess. The Back button works just as well.</p>
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		<title>By: William Mortensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Mortensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gift thing is already taken care of on the iTMS. Looks like it&#039;s a pretty new feature. To be honest, it&#039;s not the most intuitive part of the store, but it&#039;s there.

There are a couple of ways you can do the gifting thing. If you just want to give a particular song or album, you need to get to the relevant &lt;a&gt;album page&lt;/a&gt;. Then click on &quot;Gift This Music&quot; to the right of the album-cover image. (I&#039;m not sure when &quot;gift&quot; became a verb, but whatever.) From there, you can &quot;gift&quot; the whole album or any of the individual songs.

You can also &quot;gift&quot; a custom playlist of songs. This requires that you haven&#039;t unchecked &quot;Show links -&gt; to the Music Store&quot; in iTunes&#039; General preferences. You can then click on the arrow next to any of your playlists in the Source pane, and choose Give Playlist in the resulting dialog box.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gift thing is already taken care of on the iTMS. Looks like it&#8217;s a pretty new feature. To be honest, it&#8217;s not the most intuitive part of the store, but it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>There are a couple of ways you can do the gifting thing. If you just want to give a particular song or album, you need to get to the relevant <a>album page</a>. Then click on &#8220;Gift This Music&#8221; to the right of the album-cover image. (I&#8217;m not sure when &#8220;gift&#8221; became a verb, but whatever.) From there, you can &#8220;gift&#8221; the whole album or any of the individual songs.</p>
<p>You can also &#8220;gift&#8221; a custom playlist of songs. This requires that you haven&#8217;t unchecked &#8220;Show links -> to the Music Store&#8221; in iTunes&#8217; General preferences. You can then click on the arrow next to any of your playlists in the Source pane, and choose Give Playlist in the resulting dialog box.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, sounds like you are almost echoing &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167802&amp;cid=13991614&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some of my thoughts&lt;/a&gt; from a similar /. thread a few months ago. I actually did compare the issue to the field of pro live audio.

From my post on Slashdot:&lt;blockquote&gt;I think your real question is not about why you can&#039;t convert music from DRM format to non-DRM format. Honestly the fact that DRM music exists is what makes the only online music purchase possible. Did you expect the recrod companies to publish the music in any other way in our changing world. I forsee a time when CDs are phased out, because they can be copied easier than DRM music downloaded from an online store. Originially CDs and albums weren&#039;t that easy to copy when they were first introduced.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess your real question is why isn&#039;t there an open standard for DRM? Beats me. I think it is ultimately very self defeating for companies to maintain closed standards.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; I work in the field of live pro audio, and there standards are openly published and manufacturers readily adopt them because a) it is a selling point by itself and b)in that industry its widely assumed that your company doesn&#039;t make the best product of everything an end user needs. In other words, they know that you are going to be using ABCs product together with XYZs or Blah company&#039;s product. Therefore they must adopt open standards in order to even be a consideration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess in the computer industry that attitude doesn&#039;t exist and everyone thinks that their product is the shit or whatever. Frankly that needs to change, and what its going to take to execute such a change, I do not know.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;-Mikey P&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the end I think it all comes down to what the consumer will bear. Someone replied to me that they didn&#039;t think that the music companies will survive if they continue, but it appears that the public is willing to bear their antics and further their over marketed mediocre product. Caveat emptor.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, sounds like you are almost echoing <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167802&#038;cid=13991614" rel="nofollow">some of my thoughts</a> from a similar /. thread a few months ago. I actually did compare the issue to the field of pro live audio.</p>
<p>From my post on Slashdot:<br />
<blockquote>I think your real question is not about why you can&#8217;t convert music from DRM format to non-DRM format. Honestly the fact that DRM music exists is what makes the only online music purchase possible. Did you expect the recrod companies to publish the music in any other way in our changing world. I forsee a time when CDs are phased out, because they can be copied easier than DRM music downloaded from an online store. Originially CDs and albums weren&#8217;t that easy to copy when they were first introduced.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I guess your real question is why isn&#8217;t there an open standard for DRM? Beats me. I think it is ultimately very self defeating for companies to maintain closed standards.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> I work in the field of live pro audio, and there standards are openly published and manufacturers readily adopt them because a) it is a selling point by itself and b)in that industry its widely assumed that your company doesn&#8217;t make the best product of everything an end user needs. In other words, they know that you are going to be using ABCs product together with XYZs or Blah company&#8217;s product. Therefore they must adopt open standards in order to even be a consideration.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I guess in the computer industry that attitude doesn&#8217;t exist and everyone thinks that their product is the shit or whatever. Frankly that needs to change, and what its going to take to execute such a change, I do not know.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>-Mikey P</p></blockquote>
<p>In the end I think it all comes down to what the consumer will bear. Someone replied to me that they didn&#8217;t think that the music companies will survive if they continue, but it appears that the public is willing to bear their antics and further their over marketed mediocre product. Caveat emptor.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, sounds like you are almost echoing &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167802&amp;cid=13991614&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some of my thoughts&lt;/a&gt; from a similar /. thread a few months ago. I actually did compare the issue to the field of pro live audio.

From my post on Slashdot:&lt;blockquote&gt;I think your real question is not about why you can&#039;t convert music from DRM format to non-DRM format. Honestly the fact that DRM music exists is what makes the only online music purchase possible. Did you expect the recrod companies to publish the music in any other way in our changing world. I forsee a time when CDs are phased out, because they can be copied easier than DRM music downloaded from an online store. Originially CDs and albums weren&#039;t that easy to copy when they were first introduced.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess your real question is why isn&#039;t there an open standard for DRM? Beats me. I think it is ultimately very self defeating for companies to maintain closed standards.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; I work in the field of live pro audio, and there standards are openly published and manufacturers readily adopt them because a) it is a selling point by itself and b)in that industry its widely assumed that your company doesn&#039;t make the best product of everything an end user needs. In other words, they know that you are going to be using ABCs product together with XYZs or Blah company&#039;s product. Therefore they must adopt open standards in order to even be a consideration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess in the computer industry that attitude doesn&#039;t exist and everyone thinks that their product is the shit or whatever. Frankly that needs to change, and what its going to take to execute such a change, I do not know.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;-Mikey P&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, sounds like you are almost echoing <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167802&#038;cid=13991614" rel="nofollow">some of my thoughts</a> from a similar /. thread a few months ago. I actually did compare the issue to the field of pro live audio.</p>
<p>From my post on Slashdot:<br />
<blockquote>I think your real question is not about why you can&#8217;t convert music from DRM format to non-DRM format. Honestly the fact that DRM music exists is what makes the only online music purchase possible. Did you expect the recrod companies to publish the music in any other way in our changing world. I forsee a time when CDs are phased out, because they can be copied easier than DRM music downloaded from an online store. Originially CDs and albums weren&#8217;t that easy to copy when they were first introduced.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I guess your real question is why isn&#8217;t there an open standard for DRM? Beats me. I think it is ultimately very self defeating for companies to maintain closed standards.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p> I work in the field of live pro audio, and there standards are openly published and manufacturers readily adopt them because a) it is a selling point by itself and b)in that industry its widely assumed that your company doesn&#8217;t make the best product of everything an end user needs. In other words, they know that you are going to be using ABCs product together with XYZs or Blah company&#8217;s product. Therefore they must adopt open standards in order to even be a consideration.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I guess in the computer industry that attitude doesn&#8217;t exist and everyone thinks that their product is the shit or whatever. Frankly that needs to change, and what its going to take to execute such a change, I do not know.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>-Mikey P</p></blockquote>
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