The Graduate (no Mrs. Robinson)
This is my recollection of the second and final day of breakfast and lunch with Yamaha punctuated by using a PM1D. The first day was pretty productive. We learned new things and got a great deal of free time on the console. For this second day we were going to go over the hardware ans setup config as well as get a tutorial of each of the menu panels and after lunch a more indepth look at V2. I’d come to listen to the new mic pre amps and to see what V2 was all about. And also for the free food.
I was looking forward to the hardware portion, though in hindsight it could be folded into the feature portion from the first day to save time. On the gigs I’ve done with a PM1D there has always been a tech that set it up and helped me program. I figured I should know how it goes together just in case I turn up at a gig to find a pile of parts and no guy or if the guy abandons ship prior to the gig. Once you see the topology it’s pretty easy and more advanced configs are available like mirrored consoles, consoles sharing input devices and DSP engines and consoles sharing input device with separate DSP and scenes. They also went over a bit of the troubleshooting procedure and what to be able to provide when you call Yamaha for support. One neat thing was 24/7 emergency support if your console tanks late at night at a gig and an applications support line open during the week for general operational questions. I thought that was pretty cool that during the week you can call and ask them how to do something relevant to your app if you can’t figure it out.
Of the questions I had one was regarding the use of fiber for longer distances. There is a box called the Artist 1D that Yamaha commissioned from Riedel to add fiber capability to the PM1D. It’s 80 channels each direction and integrates pretty easily into the system. The trainers didn’t seem to know too much about it in detail and I would suspect not that many have been deployed in the field. For example no one knew of any portable apps using this piece or how the connector configs were deployed though one of the theaters that had a person in the class had one deployed though he did not know the specifics of how it worked. When I asked about the connector specifics the marketing guy replied that they were “mil spec” connectors. Well, OK but what format? “Mil spec” again was the answer. That’s not a format, that’s a buzz word. When I asked if it was single or multimode fiber a similar confusion ensued, with one person saying yes you could operate the snake both ways. Persons that work with fiber, and this will become more and more common in our little world, need to be familiar with the various connector types as well as the difference between multimode and single mode fiber. The Riedel comes with LC fiber connectors (and operates on multimode fiber) but in a portable app LCs aren’t something you’d like to haul around. They aren’t made for repeated portable connections in harsh environments. You’d likely have to come off to a Stratos or other type of rugged use connection which would add a non trival amount to the cost. That’s one area where I think Neutrik or Whirlwind could clean up is a lower cost, robust fiber connector for portable applications. Whilrwind has a fiber conenctor though I’m not sure of the pricing. Whirlwind is making a mult specific to the copper based PM1D config taking the SCSI type D connectors that connect the engines and frames to a circular mult, a la W3 though it’s not listed on the Whirlwind site.
Next up was the software overview portion where we stepped through every menu on the surface. While the overview was handy I think that doing it on the first day would have been more appropriate as we had already covered most of the options the day before in the excercise. Still though, it was good to get a walk through. One thing that I hadn’t fully understood prior was how the various panning modes operateded. This is a pretty critical thing when doing discrete ear mixes. Some players want either different spacing of panning or completely different, aysemetrical pans when compared to the other players. It’s something my first couple of times on the console I stumbled on as the techs weren’t used to doing ears and in one case, the tech didn’t have a grasp on speaking english. The three modes are linking the mix bus pans to the L+R pans, linking all pans for that particular mix bus, separate from the L+R pans or individual mode where all pans operate independently. It’s not very obvious and if you don’t know about it or have a tech that knows about it you will spend some time trying to figure it out, if you are able to at all. One thing I’d like to see in fader flip mode is that when the pan is set to individual, the pan on the strip on the surface becomes the mix bus pan. The way it is now, you have to SEL the input and set the mix bus pans which is a bit more time consuming. A button to center the pan would be a nice addition as well.
After another fine lunch we were able to get a demo of the new FX and dynamics plug ins. They pretty much knocked off 1176s and 160xs as well as a Pultec eq and tape saturation device. They sound pretty good, better than stock dynamics units but that’s the whole point, selling esoteric plugins as part of the upgrade. While the new plug ins are part of the V2 upgrade, I wish Yamaha would go the extra distance and either open up the API to third party developers of TDM or VST plugins or develop a stand alone plugin engine that interfaced with the system. I suppose one could do something like Plugzilla and interface via a DIO frame but I think it would be more advantageous, not to mention user friendly to incorporate it into the system. We were able to finish off the day with another couple of hours of lab time with the system but I had already completed my list of things I wanted to do and thought I’d get an early start dealing with the traffic back to Vegas. Prior to that I shared some of my PM5D settings on the demo piece in the lab as it didn’t have any scenes populated. I had several configs of the mon gig I’ve been doing this year as well as an FOH gig I did last year. At the completion of the class, we were issued surveys of the class which we filled out and returned in exchange for a bag o’ swag that included a PM1D branded hat, nice polo shirt, certificate of completion and Yamaha Commerical Audio branded mini mag light. Not a bad haul.
This was a very informative couple of days and I can’t recommend it enough. My hosts were hospitable, informative and entertaining. The one thing that did stand out in my mind is how the PM1D went from industry leader on the release, to also run, long in the tooth status. While certainly functional and useable the product has slipped in the last couple of years and the latest upgrade adds enough functionality so that other products (including the PM5D) don’t relegate it to museum status. Some of the new features, like the gain compensation feature for shared preamps is pretty limiting in that only one surface has direct control of the preamp. That falls short of some of the other solutions where both surfaces can control the preamp with the compensation happening bi directionaly. That’s just one example of my point that the PM1D is closer to end of life than Yamaha would like us to believe. I think within the next year or two I’d expect something to take its place. With the interface of the M7CL (more on that surface in another post) I think we are getting a peek at the future of what Yamaha has in store for the surface market. As long as the dev cycles aren’t too long it’s a pretty good bet the Yamaha will still retain the market lead in the deployment of pro level control surfaces.
December 14th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
Dave, what console has preamp control on both surfaces? My understanding of the D5 is that it is the same as PM1D.
Mac
December 14th, 2005 at 6:41 pm
The D5/Opticore rig has bidirectional control. On the PM1DV2 you have to assign which surface has control of the preamp and my understanding from Jose (I made it a point to ask more about it) is that only the assigned V2 surface has control. They are similar in that the digital attenuator is used as the tracking compensation but with the D5 either surface can control the pre amp.
EDIT: After thinking about it for a couple of minutes (and refering to the manual) if you are using MADI over coax on a D5 only one surface has control though the changes are tracked. The fiber rig needs to be used for bi directional tracking. Never realized that before though I’ve only gigged with either the fiber or a copper split with that surface.
Dave
December 15th, 2005 at 10:30 am
Is that a new feature? when I trained on the D5, the guy from the UK was very clear about the fact that only one suface had control. He said you could use either control on the slave console, but they both controlled the attenuator, not the pre. I don’t think it’s a big deal either way, you should be leaving plenty of headroom for the ADC anyway. One thing the Yamaha guys made clear was to be sure you are close in level before you enter the tracking mode, so you don’t run out of attenuator range when you readjust the mic pre. You only have 24dB available on the gain side of the attenuator.
Mac
December 17th, 2005 at 12:29 am
Hey Dave…
Re: “When I asked if it was single or multimode fiber a similar confusion ensued, with one person saying yes you could operate the snake both ways.”
This confuses me a bit as well… As I understand it, single mode fiber is something that we plain don’t see in our industry at all until you get into telecommunications, due to the astronomical cost of the gear needed, and the fact that mutimode is still good for 10 Gbit/s for distances up to 300 meters… is that not true? I don’t think I’d believe the guy about the Yamaha snake, or am I missing something?
December 17th, 2005 at 7:01 am
Dave,
FYI; Here is the Neutrik OpticalCon:
http://www.neutrik.com/content/Products/products_group.asp?level2id=204_621916639
K.
December 17th, 2005 at 1:32 pm
Kari, thanks for the link. That fits real well with the Ethercon and Powercon. I’ll have to check the price. It will be interesting to see if someone can come up with a four core that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg as well.
Mark good to see you posting here. Regarding the fiber my point is that the guys showing the gear as well as the guys working with the rigs need to know the differences between the two. These guys didn’t seem to be familiar with fiber though in fairness it really wasn’t thier gig. I had to download the docs for the Artist 1D to see what it was about. Good point about single mode being pretty much a telco/datacom thing. The cable cost isn’t that different depending on what you’re buying (likely that multi mode cable is a bit more expensive) but the transciever cost difference is pretty significant. I always ask if they don’t say and even then for most of the portable apps it’s provided as turnkey product where you can plug and play and don’t have to source parts separately. I haven’t looked in a while but 10Gb ethernet switches even using multimode interfaces the cost is pretty staggering. At that point the cost difference of a 10GBase-LR (10 km single mode) and 10GBase-LX4 (300m multi mode) interface cards in the big picture won’t be as big a deal as the cost of the unit as a whole. Gigabit ethernet will surpass 100Mb just as 100Mb surpassed 10Mb and it won’t be too long before 10Gb is more affordable. In the next year or so it’s likely we could see 10Gb on copper.
For those new to fiber optics the IEC has a good fiber basics online. http://www.iec.org/online/tutorials/fiber_optic/index.html . The Light Viper guys also have a White Paper http://www.lightviper.com/uploads/Fiber%20White%20Paper%20V2.3.pdf online.
December 18th, 2005 at 3:38 pm
You are absolutely right about the issue of mapping the pan on stereo busses to the encoder when in fader flip mode. I never got a good chance to ask this week, but the 5D has the same problems right? I couldn’t find a way to map the pan to the encoder in the case of stereo mixes.
Also, Ramtech makes a solution for the 1D as well. It has a rack mount box with either 1 or 2 SCSI connectors and 4 or 8 BNC lines and the rest of a 54 pair mult filled with up to 10 XLR tie lines. It’s kinda hard to tell from their page, but I think it uses a custom cable in the mult so not just any 54 pair will work.
More info at http://www.ramtech.net/pm1ddigiinterface.htm
-Mikey P